Comments for Tailgrab.Org(y) http://tailgrab.org All Hail the Tail! Thu, 17 May 2012 05:39:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Quazacolt http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20861 Quazacolt Thu, 17 May 2012 05:39:29 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20861 he said he is gonna carefully observe, so maybe he is taking his sweet time... that or probably his followers are clicking from his twitter url he said he is gonna carefully observe, so maybe he is taking his sweet time… that or probably his followers are clicking from his twitter url

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Aka http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20860 Aka Thu, 17 May 2012 03:36:01 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20860 I remember seeing links from him in my analytics. Made me feel a little good, but was kind of disappointed it was to this post, which is all other peoples content with just some commentary by myself. Oh well, can't have everything. Edit: You mean re-aware? I see links from his twitter again today. I remember seeing links from him in my analytics. Made me feel a little good, but was kind of disappointed it was to this post, which is all other peoples content with just some commentary by myself. Oh well, can’t have everything.

Edit: You mean re-aware? I see links from his twitter again today.

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Quazacolt http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20849 Quazacolt Wed, 16 May 2012 15:09:32 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20849 if it makes you feel better, the author is fully aware of your website now ^^ if it makes you feel better, the author is fully aware of your website now ^^

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Aka http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20838 Aka Tue, 15 May 2012 17:17:30 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20838 You're not understanding my English and just want to argue. You’re not understanding my English and just want to argue.

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Quazacolt http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20837 Quazacolt Tue, 15 May 2012 17:12:32 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20837 i am mainly pointing out how r and l works in Japanese. which you are clearing mistaken for with what you stated earlier: "It remains my understanding that Isuna Hasekura chose “Horo” as the ‘correct’ spelling which makes “Holo” wrong, not technically but unequivocally." just that, really. it is a Japanese production after all and that is how the language works, take it as you will i am mainly pointing out how r and l works in Japanese. which you are clearing mistaken for with what you stated earlier: “It remains my understanding that Isuna Hasekura chose “Horo” as the ‘correct’ spelling which makes “Holo” wrong, not technically but unequivocally.”

just that, really. it is a Japanese production after all and that is how the language works, take it as you will

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Aka http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20835 Aka Tue, 15 May 2012 16:29:28 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20835 In the same thread Hassler, the guy who posted the article originally says they discussed it only with the licensor, and that he presumed that they spoke with the author and original staff. Just an assumption that they did. <i>"Also, just to quickly address the comment about the decision to use “Holo” instead of “Horo”… This was discussed at length with our licensor in Japan, and based on their preference — presumably through conversation with the original editorial staff and author — we were instructed that the proper spelling of the character’s name is indeed Holo. Who are we to argue?"</i> - <a href="http://www.yenpress.com/2009/09/spice-and-wolf-unveiled/#comment-8088" rel="nofollow">Hassler</a> In whatever case, it's just long been MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE to romanize it Horo, as it is yours. Why are we still having this discussion? In the same thread Hassler, the guy who posted the article originally says they discussed it only with the licensor, and that he presumed that they spoke with the author and original staff. Just an assumption that they did.

“Also, just to quickly address the comment about the decision to use “Holo” instead of “Horo”… This was discussed at length with our licensor in Japan, and based on their preference — presumably through conversation with the original editorial staff and author — we were instructed that the proper spelling of the character’s name is indeed Holo. Who are we to argue?” – Hassler

In whatever case, it’s just long been MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE to romanize it Horo, as it is yours. Why are we still having this discussion?

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Quazacolt http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20833 Quazacolt Tue, 15 May 2012 16:17:18 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20833 from http://www.yenpress.com/2009/09/spice-and-wolf-unveiled/ : "If you really want to scold someone, you should be talking to the fansubber who botched her name in season one. In the second season of the anime, there’s a scene where Holo ends up signing a contract with someone. If you look at her signature, you can tell that it’s clearly spelled “Holo”. It has always been the author’s intentin for her name to be spelled and pronounced as Holo, and the only reason it wasn’t spelled this way in the orignal light novel was because “lo” doesn’t exist in the Japanese syllabary. Just as Lawrence’s name is spelled and pronounced “Roransu” in the anime and light novel, “Horo” is just a romanized form of the Japanese spelling of her name. The guy who subbed the first season just had enough sense to use the English form of Craft’s name." if you think about it, if the anime production, licencor (publishers mainly, which is ASCII media works) and what not ALL insisted on a decision, you would think that it is either: a) the author's actual wishes b) they just want to fuck him over i believe that's also where yenpress statement (which wiki cited) came from. of course if you're weaboo enough you can always stick with horo (like i do anyways, i supposed i am used to it, not to mentioned i HAVE to type horo when i am typing in japanese) from http://www.yenpress.com/2009/09/spice-and-wolf-unveiled/ :
“If you really want to scold someone, you should be talking to the fansubber who botched her name in season one. In the second season of the anime, there’s a scene where Holo ends up signing a contract with someone. If you look at her signature, you can tell that it’s clearly spelled “Holo”. It has always been the author’s intentin for her name to be spelled and pronounced as Holo, and the only reason it wasn’t spelled this way in the orignal light novel was because “lo” doesn’t exist in the Japanese syllabary. Just as Lawrence’s name is spelled and pronounced “Roransu” in the anime and light novel, “Horo” is just a romanized form of the Japanese spelling of her name. The guy who subbed the first season just had enough sense to use the English form of Craft’s name.”

if you think about it, if the anime production, licencor (publishers mainly, which is ASCII media works) and what not ALL insisted on a decision, you would think that it is either:
a) the author’s actual wishes
b) they just want to fuck him over

i believe that’s also where yenpress statement (which wiki cited) came from.

of course if you’re weaboo enough you can always stick with horo (like i do anyways, i supposed i am used to it, not to mentioned i HAVE to type horo when i am typing in japanese)

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Aka http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20832 Aka Tue, 15 May 2012 15:22:09 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20832 <i>"Concerning the spelling of Holo's name, Yen Press has stated that they 'were instructed that the proper spelling of the character's name is indeed Holo' by the Japanese licensor."</i> [<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_and_Wolf#Notes_and_references" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>] Yen Press' information does not come from Isuna Hasekura but the Japanese licensor. It remains my understanding that Isuna Hasekura chose "Horo" as the 'correct' spelling which makes "Holo" wrong, not technically but unequivocally. “Concerning the spelling of Holo’s name, Yen Press has stated that they ‘were instructed that the proper spelling of the character’s name is indeed Holo’ by the Japanese licensor.” [Wikipedia]

Yen Press’ information does not come from Isuna Hasekura but the Japanese licensor. It remains my understanding that Isuna Hasekura chose “Horo” as the ‘correct’ spelling which makes “Holo” wrong, not technically but unequivocally.

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Quazacolt http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20829 Quazacolt Tue, 15 May 2012 12:46:58 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20829 eh sorry on by "fo" example i meant "fa" oTL eh sorry on by “fo” example i meant “fa” oTL

]]> Comment on Nude Horo Cosplay by Quazacolt http://tailgrab.org/2011/07/nude-horo-cosplay/#comment-20828 Quazacolt Tue, 15 May 2012 12:45:30 +0000 http://tailgrab.org/?p=14859#comment-20828 it's just... Japanese with their ”ロ” which can be used with ro or lo. however if you go with ロ specifically, then it's ro (try it with your microsoft IME :P) as lo would be a "pronunciation extension" similar to how "fo" requires a ファ "fu + a" hope my basic understanding of Japanese can help clear this up ^^; bottomline/TLDR: TECHNICALLY, neither sides are wrong. :) if you stick with the japanese name, then its horo. if you prefer the english side (IINM there was an interview/statement from hasekura isuna himself that holo IS the official specially, not sure if there was also an interview/clarification from yen press as well) it is Holo. it’s just… Japanese with their ”ロ” which can be used with ro or lo. however if you go with ロ specifically, then it’s ro (try it with your microsoft IME :P ) as lo would be a “pronunciation extension” similar to how “fo” requires a ファ “fu + a”

hope my basic understanding of Japanese can help clear this up ^^;

bottomline/TLDR: TECHNICALLY, neither sides are wrong. :)
if you stick with the japanese name, then its horo. if you prefer the english side (IINM there was an interview/statement from hasekura isuna himself that holo IS the official specially, not sure if there was also an interview/clarification from yen press as well) it is Holo.

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